we schuss use that leverage. i know that is a drastic thing to do but on the other hand using force in the middle east is so much worse. jenna: tell us what you think would actually change in china? what would actually make the chinese come to our side and to be tough when it comes to iran and just stop purchases all together? >> well, if we didn't grant the waiver or if we retracted the waiver which we should because of these surreptitious shipments the chinese would sit up and take notice. and so would the iranians. got to remember that on a couple days ago the iranian plead yaw said because the u.s. grant ad waiver to china the united states was help he's are in dealing with iran. so the iranians will not be cooperative in the discussions we've been holding with them over the last few months. what we really need to show is act of will not only to the chinese but more important to the iranians. jenna: interesting how perceptions change depending where you are in the world. we know another round of talks is goin